Breaking: #Mike #Meyers is a #Blowhard #Establishment #Propagndist and #Outright #Liar #Crony #buddy of @chrismeyer76 scottkennethnoble.blogspot.com/2012/04/mike-m…
That's a mouthful...but what does it mean?
Let's dissect this.
Clearly, Scott is upset about a post on Mike Meyers website, probably the one in which he forested the election outcome for school board. The funny thing is, Mr. Noble's name never appears in the entry written by Mike, something Mike is very good about. When exercising his freedom of speech, as Mr. Noble does every day, Mike makes it a point to generally not call out people by name. Clearly, you can see that is not the case on Mr. Noble's site, where he uses personal attacks and hashtags like #blowhard to describe his target. That's fine...freedom of speech.
CORRECTION: Mr. Noble commented that his name is indeed mentioned in the blog by Mike and he's right. Mike Meyers clearly names the two school board candidates that he felt would not win the election, and Mr. Noble was one of them. He refered to him as "Mr. Noble" not with terms such as #blowhard #propagandist, or #establishment. He was also right about the election, at least overall.
blowhard [ˈbləʊˌhɑːd] Informal
n
a boastful person
adj
blustering or boastful
I'm not sure what Mr. Noble saw that was boasting or blustering in the post by Mike Meyers. I guess Mike said he did want to run for school board at some point, maybe stating that you want to run for elected office is "boasting"?
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a. The act of establishing.
b. The condition or fact of being established.
2. Something established, as:
a. An arranged order or system, especially a legal code.
b. A permanent civil, political, or military organization.
c. An established church.
d. A place of residence or business with its possessions and staff.
e. A public or private institution, such as a hospital or school.
3. often Establishment An established social order, as:
a. A group of people holding most of the power and influence in a government or society. Often used with the.
b. A controlling group in a given field of activity. Often used with the.
I can only guess that Mr. Noble is referring to the 3a definition of Establishment. Meaning that Mike Meyers is part of a group of people who hold power and influence in the city of Marshfield, even though Mike is now a private citizen, no longer in an elected position and working in the private sector. The exact same thing is true about Mr. Noble. Former alderman, now a private citizen. People can voice their political views in a number of ways, even people who were formally involved in politics or that still are! Mr. Noble himself has hopes of going to the Republican National Convention to cast his vote for Rick Santorum. I congratulate him on that. I love to see citizens getting involved. I wish more people would!
prop·a·gan·da (pr
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1. The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause.
2. Material disseminated by the advocates or opponents of a doctrine or cause: wartime propaganda.
3. Propaganda Roman Catholic Church A division of the Roman Curia that has authority in the matter of preaching the gospel, of establishing the Church in non-Christian countries, and of administering Church missions in territories where there is no properly organized hierarchy.
So, by propaganda, I assume Mr. Noble means that Mike is telling the world his opinion on political matters on his website. This information is designed to tell people what his perspective on things is. This makes it propaganda. Yep, probably right.
What does that make Mr. Noble website? I know he uses words like "News" and "breaking news" to give the opinion it is actually practicing journalism, but clearly it is an opinion page, just like mine and just like Mike Meyers. He's free to do it and so is Mike and anyone else who would like to. It's covered under freedom of speech. It's in the Bill of Rights. in fact, it is the first thing mentioned in the Bill of Rights! Clearly this is not okay with Mr. Noble. His opinions and propaganda are okay and helping fight the good fight for Liberty, but other opinions are blowhard-establishment-propaganda.
By the way -
liberty [ˈlɪbətɪ]
n pl -ties
1. the power of choosing, thinking, and acting for oneself; freedom from control or restriction
2. the right or privilege of access to a particular place; freedom
3. (often plural) a social action regarded as being familiar, forward, or improper
4. (often plural) an action that is unauthorized or unwarranted in the circumstances he took liberties with the translation
5. (Transport / Nautical Terms)
a. authorized leave granted to a sailor
b. (as modifier) liberty man liberty boat
at liberty free, unoccupied, or unrestricted
take liberties (with) to be overfamiliar or overpresumptuous
take the liberty (of or to) to venture or presume (to do something)
I think the best part of the tweet is that Mr. Noble ended it by mentioning me. I guess he clearly wants to associate either me with Mike or Mike with me. That's fine. I am Mayor, Mike is a former Mayor. I'm sure we both have people who don't like our approach, but I believe we both try/tried to work with everyone. It doesn't matter if you are a republican, Democrat, Whig, Green Party member, or Independant (or anything else), at the end of the day, we are all humans; and interpersonal communication is a key part to getting SOMETHING done. The approach that Mr. Noble uses does not take into account the human factor in which you must learn to communicate with people individually. You can't just beat everyone over the head with you club and expect them to fall in line behind you.
I know one of the things I pride myself on is working with everyone on the council. It can be hard at times because we are a small group of 11 people, elected to manage a City of almost 20,000 people. We all need to work together, compromise and make decisions and then move on to the next issue. Mr. Noble was selected by the council to fill in for about a year after his alderman resigned, and I think he knows that you can get very little done with a rigid agenda and demanding demeanor.
But, I guess like everything, it is a matter of perspective.
"Finally, there's the School Board...somewhere else I've never been but vow to enter some day in the future. There is a race and as in the past, the incumbents will win. Without a doubt. The two outsiders will provide the only excitement in the whole election. I PREDICT Mrs. Miller will beat Mr. Noble. Miller has been entered in every school board election since I can remember (and that's a lot of elections!!) but she comes up on the bottom of the count each time. However - and I could be wrong (but how often does that happen?) she gets one or two more votes each time she runs. ANYHOW.......she is going to beat Mr. Noble quite handily. Noble has yet to win an election at anything he has tried (except for being appointed 5 votes to 4 by the city council to fill in the last few months of a term as alderman in his district when the incumbent quit suddenly. Not really an election but in fairness - worth mentioning)."
ReplyDeleteSorry, could not make it past the first blatant lie.
Scott
Hopefully you will try reading again. I'm sorry that first "blatant lie" prevented you from being able to read any further. I posted a correction, as anyone who makes a mistake should.
ReplyDeleteI also allow anyone to comment on my posts, which you really should if you are going to be talking about public issues in a public forum!
Send your "Army" over to read my posts, I'd love to hear some feedback from people with a differnt perspective then I have...and I mean that. The only way we can solve problems is to open our eyes to other peoples perspectives and work to compromise.
Mayor,
ReplyDeleteYou did a good job. Saved me all that hunting and pecking.
Names and labels are for children to use to make their point because their brain has not developed to the point that they can carry on an intelligent discussion on the matters at hand. Of all the BS, the only one that caught my eye was the "Outright Liar". Where does that come from? Tell me where I lied.....
"Mr. Noble himself has hopes of going to the Republican National Convention to cast his vote for Rick Santorum. I congratulate him on that. I love to see citizens getting involved. I wish more people would!"
ReplyDeleteTried again...could not make it past blatant lie #2.
Scott
Will disagree on "blantant lie" #2, I've heard from members of the Republican Party that you've promised to vote for Rick Santorum just to get to the convention. Considering your support for Congressman Paul, that seemed odd, until I read about the plan of delegates to pledge their support for Rick Santorum, but when the time comes to vote, to vote for Ron Paul.
ReplyDeleteRon Paul is my favorite Republican, by the way. I'm 80% behind Ron Paul, but the other 20% makes me very nervous.